Ameen Soleimani, CEO of SpankChain and summoner of Moloch DAO joins the podcast. We talk about how he got into crypto and the journey so far at SpankChain. We then discuss layer 2 payment channel solutions and how progress is being made there. Ameen then talks about the background of Moloch DAO and its success so far. Finally, we wrap up with some general discussions about Ethereum related to funding, governance and more.